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For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
(Romans 1:16-32)

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"How I Wish the Homosexuality Debate Would Go" by Trevin Wax

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This may be a little long, but take some time to read it. Pastor gives phenomenal answers!
Host:
You are a Christian pastor, and you say you believe the Bible, which means you are supposed to love all people.
Pastor:
That’s right.
Host:
But it appears to me that you and your church take a rather unloving position when it comes to gay people. Are homosexuals welcome to come to your church?
Pastor:
Of course. We believe that the gospel is a message relevant for every person on the planet, and we want everyone to hear the gospel and find salvation in Jesus Christ. So at our church, our arms are outstretched to people from every background, every race, every ethnicity and culture. We’re a place for all kinds of sinners and people with all kinds of problems.
Host:
But you said there, “We’re a place for sinners.” So you do believe that homosexuality is sinful, right?
Pastor:
Yes, I do.
Host:
So how do you reconcile the command to love all people with a position on homosexuality that some would say is radically intolerant?
Pastor:
(smiling) If you think my position on homosexuality is radical, just wait until you hear what else I believe! I believe that a teenage guy and girl who have sex in the backseat of a pick-up are sinning. The unmarried heterosexual couple living down the street from me is sinning. In fact, any sexual activity that takes place outside of the marriage covenant between a husband and wife is sinful. What’s more, Jesus takes this sexual ethic a step further and goes to the heart of the matter. That means that any time I even lust after someone else, I am sinning. Jesus’ radical view of sexuality shows all of us up as sexual sinners, and that’s why He came to die. Jesus died to save lustful, homo- and heterosexual sinners and transform our hearts and minds and behavior. Because He died for me, I owe Him my all. And as a follower of Jesus, I’m bound to what He says about sex and morality.
Host:
But Jesus didn’t condemn homosexuality outright, did He?
Pastor:
He didn’t have to. He went to the heart issue and intensified the commands against immoral behavior in the Old Testament. So Jesus doesn’t just condemn adultery, for example, as does one of the Ten Commandments. Jesus condemns even the lust that leads to adultery, all with the purpose of offering us transformed hearts that begin beating in step with His radical demands.
Host:
You say he condemned adultery, but he chose not to condemn the woman caught in adultery.
Pastor:
That’s right, but He did tell her to “go and sin no more.”
Host:
But who are you to condemn someone who doesn’t line up with your personal beliefs about sexuality?
Pastor:
Who am I? No one. It’s not all that important what I think about these things. This conversation about homosexuality isn’t really about my personal beliefs. They’re about Jesus and what He says. I have no right to condemn or judge the world. That right belongs to Jesus. My hope is to follow Him faithfully. That means that whatever He says in regard to sexual practices is what I believe to be true, loving, and ultimately best for human flourishing – even when it seems out of step with the whims of contemporary culture.
Host:
But you are judging. You are telling all the gay people watching this broadcast that they are sinners.
Pastor:
I’m not singling out gay people. I’m pointing to Jesus as the answer to all sexual sinfulness.
Host:
But you are referring to gay people. Why are you so focused on homosexuality?
Pastor:
(smiling) With all due respect, you are the one who brought up this subject.
Host:
Are you saying that you can’t be gay and Christian?
Pastor:
No. I’m saying that you can’t be a genuine Christian without repentance. Everyone – including me – is guilty of sin, but Christianity hinges on repentance. We agree with God about our sin, and we turn from it and turn toward Jesus. When it comes to Christianity, this debate is not about homosexuality versus other sins. It’s about whether or not repentance is integral to the Christian life.
Host:
But do you see why a homosexual watching this might think you are attacking them personally? You’re saying that something is wrong with them.
Pastor:
I think Jesus’ teaching on sexuality shows us that there is something wrong with all of us – something that can only be fixed by what Jesus did for us on the cross and in His resurrection. That said, I understand why people might think I am attacking them personally. Most people with same-sex desires believe they were born with these tendencies. That’s why they often see their attraction as going to the very core of who they are, and so they identify themselves with the “gay” label. So whenever someone questions their behavior or desires, they take it as an attack on the very core of their being. That’s usually not the intent of the person who disagrees with homosexual behavior. But that’s the way it is perceived. I understand that.
Host:
If it’s true that a person is born with one sexual orientation or another, then how can it possibly be loving to condemn one person’s orientation?
Pastor:
Well, we really don’t know for certain about sexual attraction being innate and set from birth. All we have is the testimony of people who say that they’ve experienced same-sex desires since childhood. Christianity teaches that all people are born with a bent toward sin. It’s possible that some people will have a propensity toward alcohol abuse or angry outbursts, while others may have a propensity toward other sins. Regardless, Christians believe people are more than their sexual urges. We believe that human dignity is diminished whenever we define ourselves by sexual urges and behaviors. Consider this: married men are sometimes attracted to multiple women who are not their wives. Does this mean they should self-identify as polygamists? Not at all. And surely you wouldn’t consider it hateful for Christians to encourage married men not to act on their desires in an effort to remain faithful to their spouses. It is the Christian way, after all.
Host:
No, but it still seems like you are telling people not to be true to who they are.
Pastor:
It only seems that way because you believe sexual desire reflects the core of one’s identity. It would help if you and others who agree with you would understand that in your putting pressure on me to accept homosexual behavior as normal and virtuous, you are going to the very core of my identity as a follower of Jesus. The label most important to me is “Christian.” My identity – in Christ – is central to who I am. So I could say the same thing and call you intolerant, bigoted, and hateful for trying to change a conviction that goes to the core of who I am as a Christian. I don’t say that because I don’t believe that’s your intention. But neither should you think it’s my intention to attack a homosexual person or cause them harm merely because I disagree.
Host:
But the problem is, your position fosters hate and encourages bullying.
Pastor:
I recognize that some people have mistreated homosexuals in the past. It’s a shame that anyone anywhere would mock, taunt, or bully another human being made in God’s image. That said, I think we need to make one thing clear in regard to civil discourse: To differ is not to hate. I hope we can still have a real conversation in this country about different points of view without casting one another in the worst possible light. The idea that disagreeing with homosexual behavior necessarily results in harm to gay people is designed to shut down conversation and immediately rule one point of view (in this case, the Christian one) out of bounds. As a Christian, I am to love my neighbor and seek his good, even when I don’t see eye to eye with my neighbor. Furthermore, the picture of Christ on the cross dying for His enemies necessarily affects the way I think about this and other issues.

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Anonymous asked: I go to a Christian church where my gay father attends. It wasn't you directing to the Bible that bothered me but I noticed you personally can't ever give a direct answer. You hide behind the words of others.

Do I… mk.

Read your bible. I’ll worry about me.

Just so that we are clear that homosexuality is a sin. You don’t have to like me… That didn’t come from me, that came from your Bible.

I’m not here to fight with you and I’m being blunt because I’m in a hurry. Homosexuality is a sin. It is not God’s design, it is not God’s plan. God loves sinners and has made a way for all sinners to be redeemed. That is the great news. One who comes to God must turn from their sin and leave the old way of their former life behind. That is the truth. Jesus died for your dad, he adores your dad, he paid the ransom for your dad to receive salvation and forgiveness. I’m not disqualifying him… I’m telling you the truth. The scripture talks about people who are Christians who once were homosexual and it says to remove yourself from that sin. Its very clear.

I’m telling you this because I care and it is a dangerous thing for me to beat around the bush when it comes to someones salvation. I care too much about me being held accountable for what I say, and for you and your family members knowing the truth… I put that above making you feel comfortable or making me feel comfortable. This isn’t something that anyone likes talking about, but without recognizing that we are a sinner, we can’t receive salvation.

It’s not fun for me to talk about hell. I don’t enjoy telling people that the path they are on is a path of the wrath of God. But I would hate people if I didn’t talk about it. I would deeply hate people if I just let them die in their sin with out me telling them what I know. And what I know is in the same book that you own. If you would but read it and pray the Holy Spirit will speak to you through the pages that hold the word of God. He will lead you into all truth and he will show you the reality of sin and the reality of hell…

Sinners are all dead in their sin. But God being rich in mercy sent his only Son to die for them, while they were still his enemy, so that they would be set free from their sin and live eternally. This is the truth. You know this…

So read the bible. Really dive into it and know that what I’m saying is in there and is true.

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Anonymous asked: as a practicing Catholic who reads the bible and loves my faith, I would ask you this.

Why is it then, that many studies have been done to show that the brain waves of homosexuals are different than heterosexuals, in that they follow the patterns of the opposite sex when it comes to attraction.

And that maybe, just maybe, we're not perfect, but God loves us anyways, and does not condemn us for our sin but rather sent his son to die to save us because of it. And maybe, God created homosexuals the way that they are because that its there cross to bear, their imperfection to deal with just like the rest of us have our own imperfections.

Its not a choice, its the way that they are, and instead of judging them and condemning them, we should leave that up to God and take the log out of our own eyes first.

You have missed the point. As a practicing Catholic, go and read the first chapter of Romans…The Church does NOT teach that God created anyone homosexual. Our Cross to bear is NOT sin… it is the readiness to lay our lives down for the gospel. Re-read that scripture.

God sent his one and only son to die for homosexuals… There is no need for them to perish, like you said. If Christ came into this world to condemn us, we’d all be screwed. Homosexuality is NOT a sickness, nor is it a birth defect. Because, believe it or not, people don’t have to have sex. Temptation comes to everyone. Temptation is not sin, acting on that temptation is sin. It is not sin to be tempted with homosexuality… It is sin to act out on that temptation. 

Yet after they were saved they are to turn from their sin (just like everyone else). That doesn’t mean that temptation automatically goes away, but we are to resist the devil and those temptations and they will flee from us.

Why does studies about brain waves so easily sway your belief? I am not surprised that they think differently and it shoes up on scans of their brain. That is just more evidence to scriptures teachings. In romans 12, Paul begs us to change the way we think.

So, lets rap this up. The Love of Christ compels me to tell the truth. The truth will set people free. Jesus can sympathize with people who are tempted with homosexuality because Jesus was tempted with homosexuality… yet Christ did not sin. Therefore we can go to the throne of Grace with confidence, and receive mercy and help to overcome temptation. (THAT IS SCRIPTURE!) 

Think clearly… Reference the Church’s teachings on Homosexuality…

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boredatkentstate asked: I know you run a pro-life blog but I just want to know your opinion. (it kinda has to do with pro-life type stuff). We have different opinions but I think that's ok :) Senerio: A 16 year old girl gets raped, she has no health insurance, works several jobs so she can go to college, and have a better life. She can abort the baby, or let a gay couple couple adopt it. The child would have a healthy happy family, and the mother could still be in its life. Do you think this is wrong?

Rape is terrible, its horrifying. I can’t even imagine and rape should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, in my opinion. Sadly, the reality is that many rapists never see their day in court, and if they do, many walk… I infuriates me. 

I believe that homosexuality is abnormal and wrong. I also don’t believe that a homosexual couple should be able to be married or adopt children. In this scenario it seems as though I would be forced to choose the lesser of two evils… I won’t do that. Because there are other options. I would do everything possible to help her in her pregnancy and adoption.

Now, follow me… My point is, I don’t see why the scenario should EVER be “i will only give this baby to a gay couple, or I will abort it.” That is troubling. The major point is that the child deserves to live, no matter what home it ends up in. Life is valuable and the mother’s life is valuable. I am all for her giving it up for adoption, if that is what she chooses. The choice should not be “gay couple or abortion”… The choice should be “life, however it comes”… period.

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themelodyfades asked: I can say that I'm pretty surprised you didn't pull the Leviticus verses out on me.

I believe that sex can be whatever two (or more) consenting adults want it to be. I used to think that I'd wait until I was married to have sex. But after I left the church that belief stayed there. Sex is fantastic, even bad sex is pretty good. I believe that as a species we are not inherently monogamous, that the expectation of monogamy comes from society. I have nothing against monogamy, I like it and crave a long-term monogamous relationship. But I don't expect everyone to fit into that, if everyone in an open relationship is cool with it, I say let them go for it. They aren't hurting anyone.

The resisting the temptation, that's like ignoring part of who you are. I honestly believe one's sexuality is wired into them (and maybe even possibly hereditary. One of my exes, her mom is gay as is her mother's one sister which I find so entertaining)

Not going with what you feel can make for some serious psychological damage. And pretty much any "ex-gay" still has those feelings, just has gotten very good at hiding it. It is a “dude, i just can’t help it" kind of thing. I can't help that a pretty lady makes my head turn, women's bodies are just....unf! So gorgeous. I'm just not attracted to the vast majority of cis-gendered men.

And I do understand the religious marriage being intended for one man and one woman. Though that should have no impact on a legal marriage. Personally I couldn't care less if there is never federally legal same sex marriage, as long as there is something that has the same full legal rights and protection that come with marriage.

Also, I am totally all for adoption. When I'm older and have a stable job (and possibly a stable LTR) I'm definitely going to adopt. At least once. I want kids when I'm a real adult and can properly take care of them. Just haven't decided if I'll ever go and get impregnated.....I don't deal well with pain ><

And asking that I come to Christ, that's like asking me to believe in Santa again. The intentions are good, and I think it's okay for people to believe. But if I wanted stories to believe in I'd be more inclined to believe ancient Greek mythology. Their religion was sooo entertaining! Ooooo or Harry Potter I'm sure there are comparisons between HP and the general idea of most religions....

Dude I’m all about Leviticus. hahaha. I’m about to like re-do my life and just eat a Levitical diet, because I’ve read these books about how healthy you get when you follow those rules on eating and such. Basically, I want to do a tri-Athlon and fast food doesn’t help. lol

I believe that one’s sexuality is wired into them as well. The orientation is our choice. Would you agree that there are a lot of things that aren’t healthy that we control and deny ourselves of? Like anger… Anger is a good thing, at the proper time, etc… Suppressing anger is not healthy… And not controlling anger can lead to horrible things. It’s not ok to kill someone when they look at you wrong… We deny ourselves the pleasure of acting out on feelings that aren’t reasonable… Because it’s not right. That might seem ridiculous, but people like Hitler and Saddam Hussein enjoyed killing people because they made them angry…. or it was just for fun. Going with what they felt made for more than serious psychological damage, but the annihilation of a people group… NOT denying what they felt is what caused the damage.

What other things do we deny ourselves because its not health, and its not natural, and it’s not right… There are a lot of things, things that make up who we are as a person.

Sexuality is a part of who we are as humans… yet sexuality can be abused and tampered with and confused and misunderstood and let get out of control. Homosexuality is one of those cases.

The real point is, you are so valuable, and you are worth more than a lie and a unnatural relationship. When you realize that, you’ll understand. You’re precious and you’re going to need more one day, and you’re not going to find what you are looking for in what you are doing. When that happens, remember what I’ve said and that Jesus is aware of you and seeking after you. I pray that when you need Him, you’ll remember that.

I think we should watch Hercules with this talk of Greek mythology… I prefer Roman mythology… haha.

Someone asked me a while back “Are you a Harry Potter person”… I said “Na dude, I’m an adult… I’m not about all that crap… I’m from Middle Earth.”… haha. I’m an LOTR person! ;)

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themelodyfades asked: holy shizzballs dude

but anywhoze I just said that I could totally boss you in a gay debate so bring it XP

What do you consider right and wrong and the truth about queerness?

I believe that human sexuality is a very wonderful and powerful treasure shared between a man and a woman. I believe God created men and women different to fulfill two different and awesome roles on earth. I believe that sex finds its proper place within the protective confines of a life long marriage and should be reserved for marriage. I believe that life-long, faithful marriage is the first Human institution ordained by God and therefore, the basic, irreducible building block of society. I believe that the value of marriage in a community will determine that community’s health, happiness, productivity and safety. I believe marriage is our choice to enter into if we wish. I believe that God ordained marriage as a symbol of Christ’s marriage to the church (being a legit spiritual thing, not a physical thing. lol) I believe that those who don’t get married are completely normal and should not have sex. I believe that those who want to have sex and cant stand the thought of not having sex(most everyone… haha) should definitely get married. I believe that those who want to have sex should be self controlled and get married when they are ready to fulfill their role in a marriage. I believe that sex is a gift within a marriage and is the gift that unites the two as one flesh. I believe that having children is a gift from God and I believe that adopting children is a gift from God and a responsibility for believers. I believe that adoption is the basic principle that we, as Christians, need to understand since after accepting Jesus as Lord we were adopted by God and become his child. Adoption is an amazing, incredible, (adverbs cant be exhausted in the attempt to describing its value) “thing”. haha

That sounds all proper and memorized… But in order to just cut to the chase, that is what I believe… And since you spent a lot of time in church, I am assuming you understand all that I’m saying… You can also see how homosexuality does not, in any way, find its way integrated in the above design.

I also know that almost 1/2 of the people in our country do not live in that design, for many many many many different reasons. I’m not saying that everyone is wrong, if they are a single parent, or haven’t adopted, or have been married a few times… etc. I know that (even in my parents marriage) the above design was not what was carried out, yet it was at no fault of my mothers. My dad left, and that was not her fault…

So anyway, I also believe that a lot of people, who are now Christians, once lived homosexual lives, both in the time of Jesus and even now. Yet when they came to Christ, His blood washed away all of that sin and they are clean. When we come to Christ, we throw off our old way of life and put on a new self. That does not mean that we are no longer tempted with our old way of life… by no means… To be tempted is not sin, to scum to temptation and follow through is sin. (that would so suck if temptation was sin. lol)

1 Corinthians 10:13 (if i can bring a scripture in real fast. ;)) says “No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.”

So just what it says… any temptation that you come under, even homosexuality, its NOT uncommon… there are others who are tempted in the same way… yet God won’t allow you to be tempted more than what you are able to have self control with. etc…

BUT GET THIS!!! (this is my favorite part! haha)

Hebrews 4:15-16 “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.”

This is NARLY! Because, believe it or not, Jesus was tempted with homosexuality, as a man… yet he didn’t sin… he was tempted in EVERY WAY WE ARE TEMPTED, and he over came it…. AS A MAN!!! So we can go to him, with out reservation, with out humiliation, with out guilt… but with confidence and ask for HELP, when we are being tempted… and HE WILL give us grace and mercy to help us in our time of temptation and need…

So, rock on! haha

Christians are tempted all the time, but what rocks is we are not obligated to sin any more.

I understand when people who are not Christians say “dude, i just can’t help it… i can’t stop, i have to do it.” I understand that… But for a Christian, who has been washed in the blood of Christ and been made clean and given a new self… If they say “dude, i just can’t help it… i can’t stop… i have to do it.” they have believed a LIE. Because it is NOT required of us to sin any longer, because we no longer serve sin… we serve the Lord and HE HELPS US, and we can come to him with ANY and EVERY temptation and he TOTALLY KNOWS HOW IT FEELS AND SYMPATHIZES WITH US!!! That’s what rocks! There is now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ… NONE!!! WHen I go to the Lord and say “this is really getting to me, im having these thoughts, im being tempted…”… He doesn’t turn around and say “YOU SHOULDNT FEEL THAT WAY!!! YOURE A CHRISTIAN!!! YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE BETTER!!! I MADE YOU BETTER!!!!!!!”… na… He goes “i totally understand… let me help, here’s what you do… Resist the devil and He and that temptation will FLEE FROM YOU, draw near to me, and I will draw near to you…”

IT rocks babe… seriously… I wasn’t planning on writing all of this… but i just want you to know that you are loved and all of that, that i just mentioned is for you… if you will come to Christ..

talk to me babe. =)

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